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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mai:

For the sake of clarity, let&#039;s continue the example from above. Let&#039;s imagine that the investor put all $50k of his Roth in bonds, and $25k of his 401k in bonds. The rest went into stocks. Then, as you stated, bonds go up and stocks go down. (For easy math, let&#039;s say 10% up for bonds, and 10% down for stocks.)

In that situation, at the beginning of Year 2, the investor&#039;s accounts would be as follows:
Roth value: $55,000 (all in bonds)
401k value: $95,000 ($67,500 in stocks, $27,500 in bonds)
Taxable account: $90,000 (all in stocks)
Grand total: $240,000 ($157,500 in stocks and $82,500 in bonds)

To rebalance back to a 70/30 allocation, he&#039;d want to have $72,000 in bonds, and $168,000 in stocks. To achieve that, he could simply sell $10,500 of the bond funds held in his 401k, and move them into stock funds.

MyJourney: Yes, good point. No reason to put muni bonds in a tax-sheltered account!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mai:</p>
<p>For the sake of clarity, let&#8217;s continue the example from above. Let&#8217;s imagine that the investor put all $50k of his Roth in bonds, and $25k of his 401k in bonds. The rest went into stocks. Then, as you stated, bonds go up and stocks go down. (For easy math, let&#8217;s say 10% up for bonds, and 10% down for stocks.)</p>
<p>In that situation, at the beginning of Year 2, the investor&#8217;s accounts would be as follows:<br />
Roth value: $55,000 (all in bonds)<br />
401k value: $95,000 ($67,500 in stocks, $27,500 in bonds)<br />
Taxable account: $90,000 (all in stocks)<br />
Grand total: $240,000 ($157,500 in stocks and $82,500 in bonds)</p>
<p>To rebalance back to a 70/30 allocation, he&#8217;d want to have $72,000 in bonds, and $168,000 in stocks. To achieve that, he could simply sell $10,500 of the bond funds held in his 401k, and move them into stock funds.</p>
<p>MyJourney: Yes, good point. No reason to put muni bonds in a tax-sheltered account!</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would it be all your bonds vs. just the corporate/non muni bonds of your state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would it be all your bonds vs. just the corporate/non muni bonds of your state?</p>
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		<title>By: Mai Krakauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mai Krakauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the rebalance issue. If you only have bonds in your Roth IRA, how do you rebalance when they&#039;re up and your stocks are down? I would think you want stocks in all 3 of your accounts, with tax-managed funds in your taxable account. Then put bonds or other tax generating vehicles (REITs) in your Roth and 401(k). Then you have more options to rebalance, which is the corner stone of an asset allocation strategy, as I understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the rebalance issue. If you only have bonds in your Roth IRA, how do you rebalance when they&#8217;re up and your stocks are down? I would think you want stocks in all 3 of your accounts, with tax-managed funds in your taxable account. Then put bonds or other tax generating vehicles (REITs) in your Roth and 401(k). Then you have more options to rebalance, which is the corner stone of an asset allocation strategy, as I understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not ONLY look at a reports of the entire portfolio?   That way you can follow the mathematically optomal locations and not worry about the psychology problem.   I believe quicken could make this kind of report fairly easily.  

-Rick Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not ONLY look at a reports of the entire portfolio?   That way you can follow the mathematically optomal locations and not worry about the psychology problem.   I believe quicken could make this kind of report fairly easily.  </p>
<p>-Rick Francis</p>
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		<title>By: Dave C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the psychological aspect seems to weigh less to me, because the tax shelter benefit for bonds is so demonstrable. 

The alternative is to equalize the allocations, and lose money from taxes, just so a person can visually verify that all of their investments are being accounted for in a grand portfolio allocation setup. 

That sounds more to me like paying extra to remain intellectually lazy, rather than to derive psychological comfort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the psychological aspect seems to weigh less to me, because the tax shelter benefit for bonds is so demonstrable. </p>
<p>The alternative is to equalize the allocations, and lose money from taxes, just so a person can visually verify that all of their investments are being accounted for in a grand portfolio allocation setup. </p>
<p>That sounds more to me like paying extra to remain intellectually lazy, rather than to derive psychological comfort.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wolfinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wolfinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mathematics makes sense.  It&#039;s logical. It&#039;s definable. You can defend all decisions.

But, worrying, being unhappy, and losing sleep are not to be ignored.  It&#039;s important to consider how stressful financial events will affect you and your psyche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathematics makes sense.  It&#8217;s logical. It&#8217;s definable. You can defend all decisions.</p>
<p>But, worrying, being unhappy, and losing sleep are not to be ignored.  It&#8217;s important to consider how stressful financial events will affect you and your psyche.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never really given any thought to the psychological part of asset allocation....personally I do what makes sense the most mathematically or financially...but can appreciate the psychological side of it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never really given any thought to the psychological part of asset allocation&#8230;.personally I do what makes sense the most mathematically or financially&#8230;but can appreciate the psychological side of it</p>
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