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		<title>By: Mark Wolfinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wolfinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree.  One example of something proves nothing.

The number of data points is very important when trying to convince others (or yourself) that something is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree.  One example of something proves nothing.</p>
<p>The number of data points is very important when trying to convince others (or yourself) that something is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark.

There&#039;s no particular evidence I&#039;m looking for. I don&#039;t have any issues with the conclusion (that active funds consistently underperform low-cost index funds), because I&#039;ve seen plenty of other evidence and studies that show the same thing.

My issue is with the &lt;i&gt;technique&lt;/i&gt; of showing one incidence of something happening and asking readers to come to the conclusion that it is likely to continue to happen.

That said, thank you for the book recommendation. I just took a look at it on Amazon, and it looks quite interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no particular evidence I&#8217;m looking for. I don&#8217;t have any issues with the conclusion (that active funds consistently underperform low-cost index funds), because I&#8217;ve seen plenty of other evidence and studies that show the same thing.</p>
<p>My issue is with the <i>technique</i> of showing one incidence of something happening and asking readers to come to the conclusion that it is likely to continue to happen.</p>
<p>That said, thank you for the book recommendation. I just took a look at it on Amazon, and it looks quite interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wolfinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wolfinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The evidence you seek is available.  Mutual funds are a bad deal for individual investors.

The bottom line is that professional money managers - as measured by the performance of actively traded mutual funds - cannot outperform the major benchmark indexes.  And even if they could, that 1 to 2% management fee would turn the fund into an under-performer.

I don&#039;t have all the evidence at my fingertips, but for starters, try: The Great Mutual Fund trap by Baer and Gensler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The evidence you seek is available.  Mutual funds are a bad deal for individual investors.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that professional money managers &#8211; as measured by the performance of actively traded mutual funds &#8211; cannot outperform the major benchmark indexes.  And even if they could, that 1 to 2% management fee would turn the fund into an under-performer.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have all the evidence at my fingertips, but for starters, try: The Great Mutual Fund trap by Baer and Gensler</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s precisely what I&#039;m trying to do.

To me, looking at several 20-year periods tells us a great deal more than looking at one 20-year period.

And I&#039;d argue that it also provides more helpful information than simply saying &quot;here&#039;s what happened over the 80-year period from 1929-2008.&quot; I don&#039;t know many investors who are looking at 80-year time-frames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s precisely what I&#8217;m trying to do.</p>
<p>To me, looking at several 20-year periods tells us a great deal more than looking at one 20-year period.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d argue that it also provides more helpful information than simply saying &#8220;here&#8217;s what happened over the 80-year period from 1929-2008.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know many investors who are looking at 80-year time-frames.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that why you go for long periods of time, showing multiple 20 year periods (i.e. from before 1929 all the way up through 2000)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that why you go for long periods of time, showing multiple 20 year periods (i.e. from before 1929 all the way up through 2000)?</p>
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